The insurgency in Southern Thailand has roots that go back centuries, but the last 20 years have been particularly violent for the shared Thai-Malaysian border area. In this podcast, Associate Professor Lumpy Lumbaca talks with Mr. Don Pathan, an expert on the situation in the south with one-of-a-kind access to the insurgency. Mr. Pathan discusses a brief history of the violence, current observations including impacts of the corona virus, and a future outlook for the south.